Loulou,

Will you be going to this event? Or for that matter will anyone else who's from that region be going to this celebration in April? I don't know if I can but it sounds like it would be a nice opportunity to meet up with people from our region.

Thanks, I was able to see the American Heritage this time.
Mary

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>From: Edward Serros
>Sent: Apr 1, 2007 9:41 PM
>To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
>Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Mary,

I recommend the following books:

Dogs of God : Columbus, the Inquisition, and the defeat of the Moors / James
Reston, Jr., New York : Doubleday : c2005.

"To The End Of The Earth : A History Of The Crypto-Jews Of New Mexico" by

Hello Ed,
My mother's maiden name is Onate, and she is reported to have been born in either Villa Garcia, Zacatecas or Aguascalientes, Ags. I say reported because she had no birth certificate, grew up believing she was from Aguascalientes until she met her aunt Leonarda Onate who told her otherwise. Tia also took us to meet her brother Adolfo Onate living at the time (1960's)in Guadalajara. I have not been able to verify through FHC where she was born. My grandfather was Luis Onate and my ggrandfather was Don Rosalio De Onate. I was also taken to Don Rosalio's tomb inside a church in Aguascalientes. Unfortunately, I was about 12 at the time and not much interested. My mother's oral family history sounds like a gothic novel. Ironically, the only records I have found are from Panuco, Zacatecas 1882 on the marriage of my maternal grandmother--Santelices. I'm aware of the Onate history you so kindly made available; it's much more recent past that's got me stumped! Alice

I hope this helps someone.

I am doing research on my Aguilar ancestors and while doing research I
ran into these.

Elvira

Descendants of Narciso Aguilar

Generation No. 1

1. NARCISO1 AGUILAR was born 1826 in , , Mexico, and died in Hacienda

Ed,

Read your wondering about dual names with regards to the Jewish persons and their possibility of dual names. I have to say to those who were brave enough to practiced openly may not have, but those who were the converso basically had two lives and with that two or more names. Depending on their social status and the jobs closest to the crown made the true identity all the more important to hide.

The discussion on crypto jews in the New World had me googling around for more information on Jews and Muslims in the New World recently. I was intrigued by someone's mention of their grandmother being a "mesquita", supposedly meaning "mosque" so I took that to refer to Muslims in the New World, since Muslims go to "mosques" and Jews go to their "temples".

I would like to know if someone is doing resarch in Panuco, Zacatecas. I would also like a map of Zacatecas, can anyone help me with getting one??

I am doing resarch for my g--grandmother, her name is Manuela Mitre and her father is Maroial Mitre her mother is Juana Sandoval and they are from Panuco, Zacatecas. It seems that her father got married more than once and I am having a hard time to know which is which.

I have posted numerous articles that focus on this subject on my website -
http://www.geocities.com/papagaia2/crypto-J.htm

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From: "Alicia Carrillo"

...Mary, here is a link to many different maps & areas of Zacatecas. This map link can be used for ALL areas in Mexico and other countries as well. I hope this helps ya out some. Until the next time, good luck with your research...

I've been reading a book titled OVER THE EDGE OF THE WORLD by Laurence Bergreen, it's the history of Ferdinand Magellan, the Portuguese Navigator or Fernao de Magalhaes who was said to have been born around 1480 in the Parish of Sabrosa in northwestern Portugal. His lineage can be traced through his father Rodrigo de Magalhaes who could trace his heritage back to the 11th century to a French crusader, De Magalhaes. Rodrigo qualified as minor Portuguese nobility.

Hello Natalie,

Thank you for your interest. As Alicia has stated, it was a lively
meeting. I hope one day you can join us. I am about go on vacation, so it
may be a few more weeks before I post the notes to NuestrosRanchos. The

Just curious: How was the meeting of the Northern California Ranchos Group that was held in Sacramento? The agenda looked very interesting. Will you be posting a report?

Natalie in VA

Here's another plug for ROOTS TELEVISION (Jonathan mentioned this in a message in Oct.2006). In addition to the George RYSKAMP lecture on HISPANIC GENEALOGY (in four parts), there are many other presentations on genealogy "how-to", plus all kinds of aids, stories, etc. There is a 3-minute clip of Victor Villasenor where he tells how discovering his roots changed his life, and other clips from the Ancestry series of a few years ago. The programs are listed in alphabetical order, and the Ryskamp lecture is listed as "Hispanic Roots". You could probably watch the programs all day, and it would be like attending a genealogical conference - and, if you were so inclined, you could do so in your pajamas ; )

I came across this site and thought I would share with y'all in case you had not yet seen it (the site):

http://www.espinosaproductions.com/development/norte.html

I tried to connect to the museum site, but the URL wasn't any good.

Saturday afternoon:
I have just returned from the annual genealogy conference held by my local/county genealogical society (Fairfax Genealogical Society). Although the research focus for most of the membership is for American and European ancestry, there is always something to gleam regarding research techniques, which are of course, useful for any research. Because we are just outside Washington, DC, many nationally known researchers/authors, etc are often presenters at our conferences (they may be in the area working on research of their own). The out-of-town speakers were Jana Sloan Broglin, George G. Morgan (he does the "Genealogy Guys" podcasts), and Laura G. Prescott. Two other speakers - Linda Jonas (specializing in Colonial America and British genealogy) and Chuck Mason (a frequent contributor to the NGS news magazine) are members of our society. The conference offered 20 presentations, and it was hard to pick just four.

Jonathan,
I am interested in joining the class. How do I sign up?
Thanks for the opportunity.

Gilbert Paez

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Jonathan,

How many weeks will these classes last? I really want to attend, but the rehearsal time for the choir I direct is at the same time as your classes. However, our performance is April 29, and then I'll be free till September when Christmas rehearsals start up.

Thanks to all of you who have responded to my inquiries: Arturo, Linda, Alicia, Juanita, Ray, Ed, and Rose (off-line). You are the best!

Natalie in VA

During a New Year's trip to Jalisco I have managed to obtain a few copies of the book "Jalostotitlán a través de los siglos". It is the 2005 edition. It is very interesting and informative. In brief, I can tell you that this book covers the dates from 1857 to the new millenium. Please contact me at romojose@yahoo.com and I will be glad to discuss a way for you to get a copy.

Hello, Everyone and Fellow Martin Del Campo researchers:

I have begun reading the archival messages (2003, so far) and wanted to add
to my introduction, now that I have a better idea of the Martin Del Campo

Natalie,

I am not researching the Sombrete area however in response to your questions perhaps I can help a little.

The title of the film you are reviewing tells me it is of baptismal records of the church of San Pantaleon. It is possible the film contains entries from other smaller out lying churches under San Pantaleon. I have found similar instances where the same person is recorded in two locations within the same parish. I can only surmise the smaller church records were systematically transcribed into the main parish records. This would centralize information making the periodic inspection of records conducted by the church simpler, meaning the Bishop did not have to visit every little church on his visitation trips.

Just wanted to pass along the following announcement:

La Asociación de Clubes Nochistlenses los invita a celebrar el día del Nochistlense los días 28 y 29 de Abril del presente año.

http://nochistlenses.org/eventos.html

I have been viewing LDS Film # 0604817 - "Registros Parroquiales - San Juan Bautisita, Sombrerete; Bautismos, 1863-1869". I am searching for children whose father is surnamed CASTRO or DUENAS (~ over N); also 'natural' children born to mothers with either surname. I do this in hopes of finding a connection to link what I know to the unknown.

I am sure this list can be made longer...

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