Help reading baptismal certificate

The names with a question mark are Ma. Eugenia de Haro (which you had
correctly) and Gertrudis Mayorga.

Teniente de cura is an auxiliary priest that does some of the work of the
regular priest. The regular priest is the one that is responsible for the
church.

Illegitimate children were definitely baptized. The baptisms would say hijo
de padres no conocidos when neither parent was named amd hijo natural when
only the mother was named or if both parents were names but not married.

Just because the baptism record can't be found doesn't mean she wasn't
baptized. It could be a name was written incorrectly when your ancestor was
baptized or the record was lost. There are a lot of baptisms that are
missing for a lot of my ancestors or their siblings.

Armando

On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 5:11 PM, Laura Gonzalez wrote:

> Hola,
>
> Can someone help me decipher the names with (??) on this baptismal
> certificate?
>
> https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15087-5072-31?cc=1410092&wc=…
> (left side, last entry)
>
> Here's what I've figured out so far:
> Name: Jose Tiburcio Castañeda
> Gender: M
> Baptism date: 26 Apr 1832
> Church: San Cayetano
> Birth date: 14 Apr 1832
> Birth place: "Cerritos" Atolinga, Zac
> Father's name: Julio Castañeda
> Mother's name: Ma. del Refugio Gonzales
> Paternal grandparents: Antonio Castañeda & Ma. Eugenia (??) de Haro (??)
> Maternal grandparents: Salvador Gonzales & Gertrudis Mayorea Mayorga(??)
>
> Also, what does "teniente" de cura mean?
>
> I see (y me da risa), that baptismal certificates say "hijo legítimo" or
> "h.l." Does that mean non-legitimate children (called "natural" right?)
> weren't baptized? I cannot find my great-grandmother, but I found (some)
> siblings. Maybe she wasn't baptized?
>
> Thanks,
> Laura
>

To Laura,

The maternal grandmother is simply Gertrudis Mayorga. The other names are OK as you have them. A suggestion: you may want to keep track of the name of the padrinos. Sometimes those names are helpful. Teniente de cura means assistant priest or ass't pastor. All of the children who were brought to be baptized were baptized. They were labeled differently. I hope this helps you.

David Delgado, Albany, CA

-----Original Message-----
>From: Laura Gonzalez
>Sent: May 31, 2012 3:11 PM
>To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
>Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Help reading baptismal certificate
>
>Hola,
>
>Can someone help me decipher the names with (??) on this baptismal
>certificate?
>https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15087-5072-31?cc=1410092&wc=…
> (left side, last entry)
>
>Here's what I've figured out so far:
>Name: Jose Tiburcio Castañeda
>Gender: M
>Baptism date: 26 Apr 1832
>Church: San Cayetano
>Birth date: 14 Apr 1832
>Birth place: "Cerritos" Atolinga, Zac
>Father's name: Julio Castañeda
>Mother's name: Ma. del Refugio Gonzales
>Paternal grandparents: Antonio Castañeda & Ma. Eugenia (??) de Haro (??)
>Maternal grandparents: Salvador Gonzales & Gertrudis Mayorea Mayorga(??)
>
>Also, what does "teniente" de cura mean?
>
>I see (y me da risa), that baptismal certificates say "hijo legítimo" or
>"h.l." Does that mean non-legitimate children (called "natural" right?)
>weren't baptized? I cannot find my great-grandmother, but I found (some)
>siblings. Maybe she wasn't baptized?
>
>Thanks,
>Laura
>