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how does the couple in this marriage dispensation relate to each other

By katy_brecht_quesada | 4:20 PM MST, Tue July 16, 2013

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15237-5588-25?cc=1804458&wc=…

katy_brecht_quesada

11 years 10 months ago

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how does the couple in this

nevermind about that marriage dispensation, i figured out how that couple was related, but there's now another one i'm confused about

the couple in question is agustin del castillo and antonia de robles
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15237-6728-25?cc=1804458&wc=…
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15237-6255-19?cc=1804458&wc=…

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coronaarechiga

11 years 10 months ago

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In reply to how does the couple in this by katy_brecht_quesada

Agustin Castillo/Antonia Robles Dispensation

Hello Katy,
I think there were two issues: the first, not requiring a dispensation, is that this couple had been living together for a year (Image 499); the primary issue is that (Image 502) the groom is the son of Francisco de la Torre and Maria Castillo AKA Maria la Grande. As an infant he was adopted and raised by Isabel de la Torre (sister of Francisco). However another brother, not named, is the father of Magdalena de la Torre, who is the mother of the bride.

I like charts:

Un-named de la Torre------Brothers--------Francisco de la Torre
Magdalena de la Torre-------1st Cousins---Agustin Castillo
Antonia Robles
(Bride)
Hope this is helpful!
Deedra Corona

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coronaarechiga

11 years 10 months ago

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In reply to Agustin Castillo/Antonia Robles Dispensation by coronaarechiga

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Katy, Some of these dispensations are better than a soap opera.

On Image 505 the groom states that he was raised and treated as a son by Isabel de la Torre. However, the truth is that he is actually the son of an Indio from Santa Maria named: Alonzo. Therefore he has no blood relationship to Antonia Robles.

Deedra Corona

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katy_brecht_quesada

11 years 9 months ago

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whoa,this marriage dispensation is full drama: questionable paternity, having the authorities come after them etc.

i wonder if this couple was able to get married afterwords, and if they had any children.

anyways magdalena's father is juan de la torre.

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victorianonavarro (not verified)

11 years 10 months ago

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In reply to how does the couple in this by katy_brecht_quesada

how does the couple in this

They seem to be first cousins once removed: the groom was first cousin of the mother of the bride.

Antonia Robles was the daughter of Juan de Robles & Magdalena de la Torre.
Magdalena de Torres is the daughter of a brother of Francisco de la Torre.
Francisco de la Torre is the father of the groom, Agustín de Castillo.

So, Agustín del Castillo (groom) and Magdalena de Torres (mother of the bride) share paternal grandparents and are first cousins.

They eloped and the authorities were trying to arrest them.

Victoriano Navarro

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