Hello all

Has anyone come across a site for the ship passenger lists for Mexico.
There must have been a least two ports where ships coming from Spain
would have arrived, Tampico and Veracruz. Where would they have kept

Hi Daniel and everyone,

Taking a moment to reply to Daniel concerning my maiden last name, de la O. This is my father's paternal last name and I have located an aunt who is doing research on the de la O Ortiz branch of the family. I'm extremely busy right now. My seven siblings and I are getting together in El Paso, Texas on August 1st to celebrate our Mom's 80th birthday. I was appointed the job of writing Mom's story and my husband is putting together a genealogical tree. We also collected as many pictures as possible to share with the family. As you can imagine this has become quite an undertaking. This project has taken over our lives for the past few months. Hopefully when we return from Texas in August, we'll to participate more fully in the information exchange for Nuestros Ranchos. We traveled to Mexico in April to meet aunts and uncles and they gave us so much valuable information that I definitely recommend that anyone doing genealogical research should travel to their

Hello Everyone,

I just found this info and I thought I would put it in case it helps anyone:

Hola A Todos,

Acabo de encontrar esta informacion que pense que podia ayudar a algien en su buscada:

Maria de Gabay y Ana Francisca de Gabay eran hermanas. Este dato lo
encontre en el libro de Jose Luis Vasquez y Rodriguez de Frias "Genealogia
de Nochistlan Antiguo Reino de la Nueva Galicia". El capitulo 58 del libro

Marisela,

Have you tried Nochistlan in your records search, it's a neighboring town, 30 km distance and there are many Quezadas.

Alicia Carrillo
San Jose, Calif

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I would like everyone to at least give their first names when they reply
to an email message.

Some of us don't reply all that often and it is hard to tell exactly who
you are. You might just say something that might make us interested in

Hello everyone!!!

My grandfather's name is Mateo Quesada.? His parents were Emigdio Quezada and Micaela Ibarra.
Mateo Quesada was christened on 26 Sep 1881 @ Nuestra Senora de los Dolores, Teocaltiche, Jalisco, Mexico.

I found the following additional information on Maria Gabay:

"Gaspar Melchor y Maria Gabay se casaron el 24 de Julio de 1657" This looks like a second marriage for Maria Gabay.

John Gonzalez

Additional information on Maria Gabay.

Joseph de La Cruz and Maria Gabay appear on the list for Confirmations on June 27, 1648 in Teocaltiche, Jalisco. Their children confirmed were: Maria, Ana, Teresa and Juan. No other information is given.

http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/16790

Could anyone in the group tell me what the word is right before "Zacatecana"? It looks like "F---ica". Is this a town where the bride was "originaria y vecina de"?

John,
I understand that children's surnames often do not match the patrilineal usage we employ today. However, often (but not always) those 'inconsistencies' have a 'logical' explanation. In the example of Gertrudis, Nava was her mother's surname. Other siblings took the Munoz from the mother side, while others the Gonzalez from the Paternal Grandfather in all sorts of combinations (with or without de Hermosillo). However, I wonder whether anyone knows of an Extracted Record that lists Ramirez de Hermosillo for members of that family. All the ones I've seen listed are Submitted Records. I wonder if all started with a transcription error (Ramirez instead of Gonzalez) with that error becoming perpetuated over time. By contrast, I do find Gonzalez Hermosillo as a surname asociated to Diego Alonso de Hermosillo's children. Just wondering.

Thanks John
Last night I found the following on Alonso marriage to Luisa:

Dio. Alonso de Hermosillo y Luysa de Nava
23 Feb 1645 Nuestra Senora de los Dolores, Teocaltiche, Jalisco, Mexico
M60286 (marriages 1637-1669) 0639754.

Jaime,

Segun los datos que tengo yo, Juana Alderete era hija de Francisco Alderete
y Elvira de Padilla.

Francisco Alderete era natural de Torrelobaton, Valladolid, Espana y murio
el 25 Nov 1683 en Teocaltiche, Jalisco. Estos datos los encontre en el

Hola Primos,what is the relationship of Joseph Macias Valdez to Nicolas Macias Valadez and Leonor Retamosa
Ronnie
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Hola Bill ,I was wondering if this was Diego's second marriage ? I have Diego married to Luisa Munoz de Nava around 1644/45.
Primo Ronnie
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Yes, it is good to hear your position on this, Joseph. I have been in other
forums for other groups and, one of my own postings I had no idea was
controversial, drew a very harsh attack from someone else in the group,

Hello Everyone,

My investigation has lead me to Lorenza Ruiz de Esparza and her father Lope Ruiz de Esparza with an anknown mother. Searching here in Nuestros Ranchos I found that her mother was Francisca Gabai Navarro de Moctezuma and Francisca's mother's name was Petronila Navarro and her father was Martin Navarro. Supposibly there is a Cortez/ Moctezuma connection threw Petronila.

Hello all, I would like to know if anyone has any tips about how to continue
when you're stuck. My specific situation is that I was able to find records
back to 1856 for one of my family lines, others lines have ended sooner. On

Hola A Todos,

I doen't know if anyone else has found this site but just in case I wanted to share it since
I have found little pieces of information :

http://pages.prodigy.net/bluemountain1/newitems.htm

I was up late last night searching the Family Search Labs pilot website,
too! It's great! Not only in the 1930 census have I found ancestors, but
in typing in names to do a search on, I found information I have been

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NR_OtherDiscussion/

for any that might have missed it I have started a new Yahoo group
(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NR_OtherDiscussion/) for discussion that
is wide open on any topic you can think of. Absolutely no restrictions.

This may be a question I should have asked at the beginning of my research, but someone told me there was a way to make a copy of records found on film at the FHC. I know how to get the film and look at it, but I wasn't sure if I could actually make a copy of the original document, especially when it's one of many on a page.

Hi John! To the rescue like always. :-) gracias!

The problem is that I have that info already... I'd like to see if anyone has the record itself to see which of the 2 Juan's in the family he is. Also, I'd like more info on his parents Francisco and Ana Quiteria if possible.