Por si acaso no habian escuchado de esto... la gente en la tierra de nuestros ancestros esta sufriendo de los efectos de las lluvias e inundaciones.

In case you had not heard about this... the people in the land of our ancestors are suffering due to heavy rains and flooding.

Buenas dias a todos, he realizado con ayuda de “nuestros ranchos” y
entrevistas a familiares mi arbol genealogico hasta una septima generacion,
lo cual representa casi 200 años. me he encontrado problemas en la linea de

Does anyone know how I can obtain information about this rancho. "EL PAPELOTE EN JALISCO"? I have tried looking it up on the internet and found nothing at all. No census or if it even exists? Can anyone tell something about it or at least guide me. My paternal grandmother was from this rancho and I can't find anything on her either. Her name CAMILA ESTRADA born abt. 1894 passed away around 1937. I wonder if San Juan de Los Lagos would be a place to find some kind of documents on her.

Has anyone been able to trace information on the place of birth and the name of the parents of Pedro Fernandez de Vaulus?

Monday, Sep 8, 2008

Dear Angelina--

Yes, I have this book. It is about the size and shape of the yellow pages and has 828 pages plus. Mine is the Segunda edicion aumentada y corregida 2002.

Sincerely,

for Veronica Rahorn:

The word Tepusco seems to signify copper. The book "Nombres indigenas de todas las ciudades y municipios de la republica mexicana" by Gral. Gabriel Gavira, Mexico, 1953, has the following:

Hi Anita--

I've been working on an extensive Banuelos family tree from Ranchos Las Bocas, located close to Huejucar (not too far from Tepetongo and Juanchorrey). I did not locate the names you mentioned in my tree, but I suspect that your Banuelos branch is related to mine.

Hello - by any chance does anyone have this book? If so would you mind
looking something up? -Angelina-

Hello to everyone, my name is Cecilia and I am re-introducing myself to the group. I have been a member for a little while and I thank all of you sent me information on my Olivar Family. I have been reading the discussions about the Villalobos family.

Greetings from Lockhart. A question for Leticia Salazar. I have been looking over your info and it looks like our lines cross with Luiz Antonio Francisco Correa married to Juana Petra Carlos. Also with Bernardo Ignacio Gonzalez married to Juana Michaela del Muro.

What is the name of the style name of the genealogical report that you run on the Family Tree Maker?

Bienenido Victor,

Al igual que tu estoy investigando ancestros en Jalisco principalmente
y algunos en Aguascalientes y Zacatecas. Tengo casi 10 años haciendo
estos estudios. Es posible que los apellidos Mora y Martinez de tu

En el transcurso de las investigaciones sobre mis antepasados en México me hé dado cuenta de que en lugares como los Altos de Jalisco en donde se evitó concientemente el mestizaje, es posible seguir la linea de asendencia de las familias que se asentaron en esos lugares durante el tiempo de la Colonia. Como en mi caso 'Los Navarro de Tepatitlán' que espero poder estudiar en los libros por salir del Lic. González Leal, ojalá pronto. Tuve problemas con dos de mis antepasados pues encontré varias personas con el mismo nombre y apellido, en un caso ambos apellidos son idénticos aunque los padres del bautizado son diferentes, todos en la misma época y en Tepatitlán.

Hi,
I was very much interested in the discussion in Spanish of the evolution of
surnames. I can kind of translate it as I read it, but there are some parts
that I am not getting. This is a very interesting topic. Can anyone give a

Hola a todos:
Mi nombre es Víctor Manuel Ortiz Martínez, nacido el 16 de mayo de 1950 en Guadalajara, Jalisco. Actualmente estoy jubilado del Instituto Nacional de Estadística, Geografía e Informática, INEGI, donde trabajé por más de treinta años, primero en el levantamiento de la Carta Topográfica de la República Mexicana, lo que me llevó a viajar por todo el país. Posteriormente, en la investigación documental de nombres geográficos.

I have not posted since my introduction when I joined a few months ago but since then I have ordered the film for my great-grandparent's marriage. They were married in San Diego De Alejandria, Jalisco. The film is very blurry and hard to read. My Spanish is also a little rusty but I was able to make out that my great-grandmother Cenorina Vasquez, daughter of Jose Eduviguez Vasquez and (it looks like) Demetina Vazquez, was from San Sabastian. I have not been able to find anything further. No baptism files, no marriage records from her parents. I don't even know where San Sebastian is. I had read an email from this group that San Sabastian was in someone's research. i can't find that email but does that someone happen to recognize these names or know where it is? Any information that anyone has would be greatly appreciated!

Cristobal,

Here is what I have been able to piece together. If you would like this
report in PDF or RTF format let me know, and I can send you a copy.

Jonathan

First Generation

1. Cristobal VILLALOBOS LOMELIN was born.

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I see you as a subscribed member now. can you send your below message to the research@nuestrosranchos.org list to see if it goes through? email me as soon as you send it and I'll look to make sure it went through. thanks

Jose Aguayo, Welcome to the Group. Sorry, I don't have any information on the Aguayo surname. But your post reminded me of the myth of the three brothers. I read this article once that spoke in detail of the myth. I did a quick internet search and this was the best article I found:

Cristobal,

I found a marriage record in Teocaltiche for FERNDO. DE VILLALOBOS, Spouse: MARIA MARCIANA LOZANO, 23 OCT 1769, on film 0639757, batch M602489(1768 - 1782) in the IGI. When I found the baptism records you have listed below the mother was identified as "Maria Lozano." I don't know if she is Nicolasa or Marciana. I suggest you check the record in the Teocaltiche film.

Guenter and others:
I do not know when the practice began of assigning Spanish names to the
indigenous populations in Mexico, but I wouldn't doubt if it happened from
the beginning of the missionary times, because that was their purpose, to

Hi everyone,

I'm new to the forum but but have been researching my family history for a while. I am currently a bit lost and hoping for some feedback. I'm looking for the Romo family from Rincon de Romos, Ags. in the late 1880s or early 1900s.

Hello my name is Cristobal

I am new in the system, I am have 5 years making research about the last
names Villalobos, Quesada, Lomelín and Ortiz.

I would like to know if somebody now about the Villalobos in Encarnación de

I have hit the proverbial brick wall on researching the surname Aguayo from the present back to the late 1700s in Aguascalientes. So I decided to try to locate the first Aguayos who came to the New World during the Conquest and work forward from them to see if their was a connection with my research working back. In September 2007, my wife and I visited Cantabria, Spain where legend has the Aguayo surname beginning. Allegedly there were three Goth brothers who participated in the reconquest of Spain during the 12th and 13th centuries. The family gave their name to the region of Aguayo and to three villages -- Santa Olallya de Aguayo, Santa Maria de Aguayo, and San Miguel de Aguayo. We visited all three villages, asked questions about the history of the region, and about the surname. The present villagers knew little about the surname, but we met Manuel Garcia Alonso, who has a home in San Miguel de Aguayo and is a professor at a university in Santander. Alonso has written Aguayo y los Aguayos, an ethnographic and historical study of the region. According to Alonso and other sources, the Aguayos were gone from the region by the 15th century. They continued fighting in the reconquest around Cordoba, Saenz, and Ejica. For their service to the various kings, they received titles and a coat of arms. This coat of arms is still visible on a Casa Fuerte in San Miguel de Aguayo where they apparently retained some ties to the area.

Good Labor Day to all!
 
I wanted to reach out to the experts in the group for some help with the Santiago family from Villanueva, Zac.  I was so excited to break one more generation last night on the Santiago branch.  Up to now, I was stuck in the Juchipila/Moyahua area.  The couple is named Felipe de Santiago and Maria de la Candelaria Albares.  They were parents to Maria Catarina de Santiago.  Any insight in working the Villanueva area? What other towns can I focus on through Family Search?  The lists of Santiago in the area go on and on so any insight would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks!!